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#2686 Post by Eric Paddon »

Got the Blu-Ray of "Satan Bug" yesterday and it made me revisit my last review of the film here.
The Satan Bug (1964) 7 of 10.
-I watched this not too long ago when the DVD-R came out to less than stellar reception because of the lack of a new transfer (though it is anamorphic). Last time I was more self-consciously bothered by how Sturges showed too much restraint in the opening scenes that made it tough for the viewer to grasp what was happening (his not showing the dead bodies of Henry Beckman and John Anderson doesn't help either). THis time, I watched with that more careful "second viewing" (even though overall it's probably my fifth or sixth viewing of the film over the years) and it was a better experience. Even so, I think there's an overall incompleteness to certain things and too many ideas are developed way too fast. I'd sure like to know what additional scenes might have been shot and cut to see if they improved the narrative a bit.
With this viewing, I think I'd probably knock two-tenths of a point off the film as a whole. The Blu-Ray looks terrific and is a must-have improvement over the old DVD-R that was released. But seeing it look this good drove him the editing problem I had with Sturges' failure to show Asner and Sutton murdering John Anderson and Henry Beckman in the opening, and also failing to even show us their dead bodies later. The narrative gap I was concerned with earlier, such as why are Maharis and Anne Francis interested in an abandoned car where they end up finding the flasks hidden in the river also stuck out so much with me that I was rewinding the film to see if I missed something.

Glenn Erickson's commentary track did clear up this gap in the plot. It turned out there was an additional scene shot to set up the fact that Richard Basehart had admitted getting a flat tire and needing to hitch a ride home, which is why Maharis was interested in finding out about the car and then getting led to where the stolen flasks were hidden. The absence of this scene was inexcusable IMO.

While Erickson's commentary was helpful in that regard, and while I also didn't mind his comparison of the film with Alastair MacLean's original novel, it is also veered off into one of those infuriating pieces of drivel where film buffs go off on unrelated tangents (for instance I had to suffer a five minute digression on Howard Hughes changing an early 50s movie of some blacklisted writer from post-war Nazi plot to Communist plot just so Erickson could regurgitate every stale cliché about the "Red Scare" era of filmmaking) or quote social critics making deeper insights about a movie than are warranted. It's a commentary track worth hearing once for the good tidbits, but never to be heard again once you've absorbed that info.

Where I do agree with Erickson is that "Satan Bug" is a rare case of a film where the "McGuffin" device is front and center the film (a bio-terror weapon) and the characters are all secondary to it, even to the point where the villain's plot and purpose never makes much sense when you think about it too much. It's a film that I think is helped with hindsight in that if you're a 60s TV fanatic, the chance to see so many familiar faces from the TV world brought together makes things even more irresistible (even with Simon Oakland in a small role considerably against type). And Goldsmith's score is terrific.

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#2687 Post by Eric Paddon »

Going through a backlog and also some Blu-Ray upgrades.

Undercurrent (1946) 7 of 10
-This is an obscure item from a Katharine Hepburn set I got years ago solely because it had "Dragon Seed" (one of the few Stothart scores released by FSM). I've never been too keen on Hepburn which is why I've not seen many of her films (and very few of the ones she did with Tracy). But this film was an interesting one that makes an unexpected deviation into mystery thriller. Hepburn marries Robert Taylor and then discovers a curious cover-up regarding his missing brother who may or may not be dead. Robert Mitchum has a role quite unlike what he would become better noted for. Stothart did the score on this one too. I imagine had there been more demand for his work we might have ended up seeing it from FSM way back when (if it still exists). At any rate, this turned out to be a nice discovery.

The Next Voice You Hear (1950) 6 of 10
-I still need to read Dore Schary's book on the marking of this film (done as a case study of how a film is made). If they had just had the guts to let us actually *hear* the Voice of God it would have packed more of a punch. Their skittishness on this point undermined the film's potential. It is interesting to see Nancy Reagan in her only significant lead role.

On The Beach (1959) 7.5 of 10
-Got the Blu-Ray, which interestingly lacks a "The End" card the DVD had. I may have also noticed a synch problem with it. At any rate, better picture over the very old DVD release. It's the only Kramer "message" film I can get through and I think it's one of Ava Gardner's best performances. Having just listened to a BBC radio drama that was a more faithful adaptation of the novel, I can more easily tell that there was clearly some additional material involving Gardner left on the cutting room floor (there is no establishing scene to indicate she has a father with his own farm, which is where she is when Peck returns).

Niagara (1953) 8.5 of 10
-Another Blu-Ray upgrade. What I love about this film is that it's like stepping into a time machine and actually visiting Niagara Falls in 1953 and in Blu-Ray that's even more evident. There are some films that transcend the story they tell and give us a window into how things were like in a distant age and this is one of them. That it also has a gripping and effective story makes it a bigger pleasure. I admit I am not a fan of Monroe so her presence doesn't factor much into my assessment of the film. If anything, I find Jean Peters to be a breath of fresh air by contrast.

Soylent Green (1973) 7 of 10
-I like it better than "Omega Man" among Heston's sci-fi films of the era. On Blu-Ray its easier to notice the background of useless debris like old broken TV sets.

Also received a Blu-Ray upgrade of "Midway" and have pending an upgrade of "Westworld" (at long last) as well as the Twilight Time release of "The Bounty."

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AndyDursin wrote:While I'm obviously not a big remake fan, I'm very interested in seeing HBO's WESTWORLD series coming later this year.
Any smidgen of interest I might have had is gone.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-f ... act-828287

More and more we see the mainstreaming of what common sense used to call pornography.

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It's Not Porn, It's HBO! :roll:

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#2690 Post by AndyDursin »

That's a real WTF kind of situation. I can't say I'm a big HBO viewer, and I am not into GAME OF THRONES at all.

On the other hand, SILICON VALLEY is funny and smart, if R rated for profanity.

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War And Remembrance (1988) 5 of 10

-It took me collectively some eight weeks I think to get through both miniseries. In the case of "War And Remembrance" I feel like I deserve an "I survived" t-shirt because it is really IMO a chore to get through, and it is so easy to understand why this killed the concept of the big event miniseries for all time. The chief problem is that despite its massive length as aired, in contrast to Winds, it seems so frustratingly incomplete. I have read that because of the lackluster ratings for the first half which aired several months before the final chapters, Dan Curtis supposedly hacked out about several hours of material for the final part and it shows in the final result with a number of characters we have invested so much time in before going back to the first miniseries being disposed of in minimal fashion or a number of plotlines involving the characters disappearing without a trace. Leslie Slote for instance, going from the State Department to the OSS so he can conveniently become a victim on D-Day never makes any rational sense in the final cut. Janice Henry, disappears with just a throwaway reference line after we've been given a serious bit of drama regarding Byron falling for her. The dissolution of Pug's marriage to Rhoda also seems incomplete. In Winds, Rhoda's affair with Palmer Kirby was well-thought out but her affair with Hack Peters and the divorce comes off as disjointed. And even though I felt I was paying attention the whole time, I have no idea what happened to Philip Rule (Ian McShane). It's obvious that Curtis sacrificed much of this for the sake of retaining the "important" stuff of showing the Holocaust in all its unvarnished squalor. But in all honesty, the more I watched the more I found the whole Aaron-Natalie storyline a case of non-stop sadism for the viewer. It probably worked better on the printed page, but here all this jerking around of near-misses and wasted opportunities and endless scenes showing in minute detail the phases of a Nazi operation in the camps just IMO after a while felt like a case of belaboring the obvious.

This may come off as my saying that the Holocaust sequences should have been cut. No, I think they should have just been tightened a bit. Five to ten minutes of restored exposition regarding the other characters would have been better than some of the endless sequences. Because to get something else off my chest, I think this desire to show off every facet of German atrocities also backfires when at the same time, the drama also ends up whitewashing the atrocities that happened elsewhere in this war. Despite the fact that a lot of action takes place in the Pacific theater, the Japanese are treated at arms length and we are given no insight whatsoever into how they were capable of the same levels of barbarism. Indeed, we are allowed to see the Japanese depicted more as victims when we are given "Lady" Aster's gunning down of Japanese sailors after sinking their boat, and then later Byron Henry confesses that killing Japanese leaves him cold and he is also allowed to suggest that the Japanese probably think Americans are barbarians as much as the Americans think they are barbarians. The problem though is that I seriously doubt Byron would be this moody about it if it were German sailors gunned down nor would he be apt to have moral qualms in him if it had been Germans. The Bataan Death March, the mistreatment of American POWs and the rape of China are more than proof of how the Japanese were the Nazis equal in terms of their capacity for genocidal mania. Perhaps we could have seen this if say, a character like Warren Henry had become a POW in a Japanese camp instead of just being killed at Midway.

And don't even get me started on the whitewash job on the Soviets. "Winds Of War" gave us some nuance, but in "War And Remembrance" it goes out the window completely. You'd never be able to guess that the Soviets themselves racked up their own counterparts to Nazi barbarism in events like the Katyn Forest massacre and how it was our government's desire to please Stalin that we covered up the truth about who carried out such massacres.

The simple fact is that "War and Remembrance" presumed to give us something that could allow us to see the totality of the picture of World War II as a whole. In that respect, it comes up woefully short in that regard, and because they chose to cut short so much of the important character exposition as it chugged along, it can't even substitute as something where we can ignore the inadequacies of it as a history lesson and concentrate on the comprehensiveness of its drama regarding the impact of the war on an entire family.

Acting wise, I stopped missing John Houseman as things went along because Houseman IMO never could have handled the demands of the role as Aaron Jastrow's suffering goes on, nor could he have pulled off the restoration of pride and faith in his Judaism that I felt Gielgud did an excellent job of doing. I found Steven Berkoff too comical (influenced as I am by his General Orlov role in "Octopussy") compared to Gunter Meisner in the original who I felt nailed Hitler completely. I still found myself disliking Victoria Tennant. Jane Seymour was more believable as a Natalie subjected to all this terror than Ali MacGraw ever would have been. Robert Mitchum's age was evident in every scene but his return was the one that was most necessary from a continuity standpoint IMO.

I doubt very much I will ever sit through either miniseries again unless the cut material were to surface and give me a better sense of what Curtis had to lose to satisfy the network demand caused by the fact that "War And Remembrance" was already a dinosaur by the time it aired.

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#2692 Post by Paul MacLean »

I remember Johnny Carson joking about The Winds of War on the Tonight Show and saying "Hitler was played by Howard Cosell with his wig on backwards", and "Robert Mitchum got so excited he opened his eyes halfway." :mrgreen:

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THE MARTIAN
8/10

Would have given this a higher mark if it weren't for the crap soundtrack -- specifically the disco songs that made both Paul and I want to throw something at the screen at the end of the movie. What a tepid way to end an otherwise rock solid, inspiring drama (I WILL SURVIVE and LOVE TRAIN -- are you serious?), albeit somewhat overpraised from the gushing reviews it's received. Damon is terrific.

ELECTRIC BUGALOO: STORY OF CANNON FILMS
6/10

Finally got around to watching this all the way through, and it was, sad to say, something of a letdown. Overlong and yet undernourished with juicy anecdotes, this does neither a good job cycling through the filmography of Cannon Films (it doesn't even bring up COBRA, for example), or really speaking about behind the scenes issues. Some participants say they hated working with Golan-Globus, but specifics there are remarkably light, and there's little here you can't get from reading a Wikipedia article -- despite all the talking heads.

Still worth it for the hour of Cannon trailers and some deleted anecdotes that go into detail on the aborted SPIDER-MAN movie and the production of 10 TO MIDNIGHT, but not as much fun as it could have been.

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THE WALK: 8.5/10

Even though I know the outcome of this story, for the last 40 minutes I was literally cringing in my theater seat watching this extraordinary work from Robert Zemeckis, and not only has he made his best film since CAST AWAY and to a lesser extent, FLIGHT, but he has made one of the most gripping 3D films I have ever seen. Telling the story of Phillippe Petit's highwire walk between the twin towers of the World Trade Center in 1974, this is also a fascinating look at why entertainers do what they do and how they go out accomplishing it. I have felt that for a long time Zemeckis had become totally in thrall to the mechanics of special effects filmmaking at the expense of telling a human story-nice to know he still has the touch and the humor to tell a good story.

The actual walk is only the last third of the film, with the rest the story of Petit's early life then the preparations for what he called "the coup," since the whole thing was illegal and he had done a dry run with a similar walk between two towers of Notre Dame cathedral with similar results. The whole section on prep is fascinating, both in what he had to gather together technically and also recruiting co-conspirators both in France in NYC to pull this off and even when he and his cohorts are actually in the building there is the danger of being caught beforehand and having plans thwarted by unforeseen circumstances (an elevator they need to take the equipment up is booked for the entire day because of office furniture being moved into one of the towers, both a watchman and an office worker [a nicely done scene] almost spoil everything inadvertently). Again, you know what really happened, and yet there is some pretty damn good suspense even before he goes out on the wire.

Joseph Gordon-Levitt continues to impress with another superb performance as Petit (the wire walker served as technical advisor and trained Gordon-Levitt in what to do)-it also does not hurt that the actor learned to speak French fluently and by the end of 8 days was able to wire walk alone. The effects work is stunning and so realistic that it reminded me of the dizzying heights shown in the IMAX scenes from THE DARK KNIGHT and MISSION IMPOSSIBLE: GHOST PROTOCOL, which were actual live action shots-this never felt any less than really shot on location. The 3D work ranks right up there with some of the best of the latest incarnation of the process (AVATAR, LIFE OF PI, HUGO) with the effect on this acrophobic person that seeing it IMAX probably would not have been a good thing (that one of the characters, who has a deadly fear of heights is named Jeff, was not lost on me). Alan Sylvestri-who has worked with Zemeckis since the first BACK TO THE FUTURE film-turns in a wonderful score that is different than the aural mush that passes for film music these days.

This is one film that I would highly recommend, especially if you have a date that hates heights and you don't mind having a lot of bruises on your arm for a while afterwards.

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Yes, The Walk is a gem, and it's a shame so few people are interested in seeing it. It also contains the most eloquently moving final shot of a movie I have seen this year. I just wish I could have seen it in 3D...but then again, as someone not in love with heights, maybe not. Even in 2D, I was gripping the armrests of my chair for the last third. :shock:

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Since the film expanded into more theaters it did do a bit better in its second weekend, so I am not giving up on it yet. Also, considering that it cost $35M and has already made about 1/3 of that back, don't lose hope, MJ. :)

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Im afraid its toast Jeff. Barely hit $3.7 mil on 2500 screens for the weekend -- had one of the worst perscreen averages in the Top 10 -- and isn't doing anything for Imax. Its going to lose money even with the modest budget which probably doesn't even include advertising .

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X-MEN: 6/10
X-MEN 2: 8/10

I decided this month to go back and watch all the X-Men related films, and so far I only got through two of them...which means this will stretch out to the end of the year! Lol...at any rate, the biggest problem I had with the first film was that it felt too short and rushed. I know that they moved up the original release date and that Singer was rushed, but unfortunately it comes across in the film. There are too many "gaps" in the film which affected the flow of the film; it seemed most scenes were cut short, leaving me wanting more development and exposition. The most character development happened between Wolverine and Rogue, and I liked that as I felt that relationship was the emotional center of the film. Hugh Jackman really gave the role all he had and I enjoyed his energy and on-screen charisma. The weakest character in the whole film for me was Cyclops (who honestly remained worthless in the second film), and I just wished he had more dimensionality to him. Overall it was a decent and entertaining introduction to some of the characters from that universe, but it needed to be longer, in my opinion.

The sequel was in many ways everything I was wishing the first film had been - the story was much more interesting and flowed so much better; it was a decent length so Singer et. al. could spend more time in developing the characters' backstories and relationships with each other. The premise of the film and the motivation of Stryker was disturbing, and the fight sequence between Wolverine and Lady Deathstroke was a blast. The addition of Nightcrawler was interesting and I liked what they did with his abilities. I also felt the film was genuinely moving, especially when Cyclops and Wolverine had to mourn the loss of Jean Gray. The only scene in the film that stuck out like a sore thumb was the "coming out" scene at Iceman's parents' house...it was an unnecessary scene that came out as somewhat forced, or as if Singer was beating the audience over the head with it. The music from both films was okay but not really memorable to me. Overall both are entertaining and worth watching; at this point though the second one is, for me at least, the better film.

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BRIDGE OF SPIES: 8.5/10

Spielberg and Hanks team up again (SAVING PRIVATE RYAN, CATCH ME IF YOU CAN, THE TERMINAL) for this film based on the true story of Jim Donovan, who first defended a man suspected of being a Soviet spy (Mark Rylance-wonderfully droll) then was asked to negotiate the return of a US military pilot shot down over the USSR by seeing if the Soviets will exchange the pilot for his former client, now serving a 30 year prison term for espionage. Complicating matters is the detention of a US exchange student by the East Germans, and how there actually was a rivalry between the Soviets and their puppets in East Berlin to get the Eastern bloc spy back and how Donovan-forced to work as a "private citizen" without portfolio-had to juggle all of this in just a few days.

The Spielberg/Hanks collaborations have, for the most part, been extremely satisfying films to watch with RYAN the best of the bunch, followed by the Abignale forgery saga and further down the fable about the visitor to the US caught between a rock and a hard place. I would put this between RYAN and CATCH ME, if only for the incredible low-key performance by Rylance as the spy (if he does not get at least a Supporting nod, something is not right) and Spielberg's wonderfully polished direction. Hanks is quickly becoming an iconic actor in playing men with integrity and fortitude-his not getting a nod for CAPTAIN PHILLIPS is one of AMPAS most glaring omissions in years-and his Donovan is a man who will defend his client despite a revulsion at what he has done because that will show the world that we are not like the totalitarian states who persecute without thinking: we give everyone the opportunity to be innocent until proven and found guilty and if the outcome of the case was a bit hinky, the condemned still deserves a fair hearing.

This is a different film in the Spielberg filmography because for the first time in over 30 years, John Williams did not score a film for his friend (evidently the STAR WARS film took up all of his composing energies) so Thomas Newman stepped in and actually does a yeoman job. There are some similarities to Williams but the score is all Newman's and nicely done. The script was co-written by the Coens and you can tell where their stamp is on it-Hanks asks Rylance if he is worried about something and the response, "Would it help?" is a nice running gag throughout the film. The film has a bittersweet ending with Hanks on a train in NYC and viewing something out the window that reminds him of another view out of a train window in Berlin, with a very different outcome, and the look on Hanks face says it all. I hope this film does well-good historical films, even those from just a little over 50 years ago, are becoming rare in theaters and mostly fodder for so-so reenactments on the History Channel. The audience I saw it with-mostly over 40-really enjoyed it.

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Yeah...saw Bridge Of Spies with my Dad this afternoon, and we both enjoyed it very much. He even -- not spurred by anything I said -- commented about how nice the score was during the end titles! :shock: Naturally, seeing a Spielberg movie sans Williams is a bit odd, but Newman did a great job with his music...subtle yet emotional and tense when needed, with a great concluding cue. Had a couple of old bats yammering away behind us for the first half before I hissed at them to please be quiet (they thankfully did for the most part), and I suspect this is not going to go over well with the under-40 set...it's very talky and somewhat "dry" (had to nudge my Dad when he started snoring around 40 minutes in :oops: ), but quietly compelling and grows on you as it goes along. A very good film, if not quite a classic.

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