SKYFALL Thread - Newman's Score, What a Drag

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No surprises here.

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Makes me nostalgic for David Arnold. LOL
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John Johnson wrote:Makes me nostalgic for David Arnold. LOL
Seriously...

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Re: SKYFALL Thread - Newman's Score, What a Drag

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But at least it isn't Desplat!

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#110 Post by AndyDursin »

Paul MacLean wrote:But at least it isn't Desplat!
I dunno, this is on the level of his Harry Potter scores. Just as bland and boring. :(

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#111 Post by mkaroly »

I did end up ordering SKYFALL and LINCOLN from moviemusic.com...after all the good press they've gotten here I thought I'd give them a try. Those are "must-have" scores for me, especially the latter one by Williams. Looking forward to hearing them both (even though it sounds like Newman's score might not be as good as hoped).

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#112 Post by Eric Paddon »

Okay, just finished this one. Better than QOS which isn't saying too much because ANYTHING could be better than QOS. Even the spoof Casino Royale is better than that one.

But still, this film misfires as AGAIN its a film about.....revenge, only this time from a disgruntled ex-agent we know nothing of until he makes his grand entrance. Strike one. We're supposed to get a buildup to a villain in a Bond film by seeing him before we learn about the end-game and this one ends up being a lot of hype for very little.

It would have been better if THIS had been the film to launch Craig in terms of finally thank God ridding us at last of Judi Dench's "M" whose annoying presence just reaches a crescendo in this film. If you were going to have her hang around for Craig then dispense with her as part of the formative experience of 007 that culminates with us seeing a reboot of the classic M and Moneypenny and a new Q in the *first* Craig film, not the third one. I don't mean to sound so harsh on Dench, because I thought she was a great foil for Brosnan's Bond and represented a proper new direction at that point in time but to keep having her hang around this long and being given so much involvement in the plots was a case of showing undeserved deference IMO to someone who should have been swept out with everyone else associated with Brosnan.

The "Moneypenny" twist at the end was interesting but frankly given how we've already had one important character in the Bond universe rebooted as black in Felix Leiter, why are we doing it again? This is another case of PC thinking guiding decision-making and I've had more than my fill of it.

I have read that they resisted the idea of approaching Sean Connery for the Kincaid part because it would have been "stunt casting". Come off it, at this stage with everything else why NOT go for the ultimate inside tribute to the past? If Connery was adamant against it, okay, but if they didn't try then sorry its a wasted opportunity to make someone like me who hasn't liked these films to at least feel a little more connected to them. That feeling has not been there in these three films so far with two of them being "eh" (and IMO inferior to all previous Bond films) and one being a disaster of epic proportions.

One personal note. I visited Shanghai in 1990 and not a single one of those high rise skyscrapers and luxury hotels was there at the time. It's amazing how much a city can change in 20 years!

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#113 Post by mkaroly »

Outstanding film that adds an emotional payoff with the death of M, the film's Bond girl. I cried in the theater; the only other time I cried at a Bond film was the death of Tracey in OHMSS. Loved the reveal of the classic car in SKYFALL as well.

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Eric Paddon wrote:I have read that they resisted the idea of approaching Sean Connery for the Kincaid part because it would have been "stunt casting". Come off it, at this stage with everything else why NOT go for the ultimate inside tribute to the past?
I personally wouldn't have wanted Connery to play the part, because he is so identified with the role of Bond himself. I think Connery (or any previous actor who played 007) would have been much too distracting and taken me out of the film. I also doubt Connery would have ever agreed to play the role, as there is reportedly much bad blood between him and Eon Productions.

The casting of a Albert Finney felt a bit weird to me though, since he is somewhat well-known, but not really a "star" anymore, and has no connection to the Bond franchise (or even the spy genre) so I was left feeling like "Is this supposed to be a cameo or isn't it? Did they cast him because he's still considered a 'name' actor, or was he cast because they think he's a character actor we won't recognize?"

To me personally, the perfect choices for Kincaid would have been either Billy Connelly or Brian Cox, who are both actually Scottish, better known at this point than Finney, totally look the part and are the right age (I found Finney's performance of a highland gamekeeper with a totally non-Scottish accent very odd!).

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#115 Post by Eric Paddon »

I think they cast Finney simply because he was a Connery contemporary and was the only other name left from that era they could go to if they were going to find basically a substitute for what on paper just reeks of being a Connery role. If anything I was more distracted by the idea that Connery should have been playing the role then I would have if he had been playing it (this is why Bill Mumy should have been old Will in the bad "Lost In Space" movie etc. There is likewise a role in the bad "Avengers" 98 movie that was clearly intended to be a role for Diana Rigg if they could have gotten her to go along with it)

Roger Moore I know was far too frail but maybe Lazenby could have done the part? :) (Yes, I know he's not Scottish but it still would have been more appropriate)

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