This statement doesn't make sense. How can people root for it to fail creatively or not? It's either well made and well executed when it hits the screens or it isn't.MarkB wrote:
I don't understand people who seem to be rooting for this to fail creatively as well as financially.
The only thing we can root for is financial success or failure. After seeing it, I'm rooting for it to fail financially to really send a big message to Hollywood.
I'm rooting for bad films to do badly. I always have, and I always will. On the other hand, I always root for good films to do very well.That seems rather hypocritical, especially when one complains in the same breath about the "crap" Hollywood is always producing.
Mark
The only way Hollywood gets the message is like so many other venues: When you vote with your wallet.
But there's a cycle that's been happening for years that people, by large, are finally becoming privy to. It goes something like this:
"Go to movie theater, get ripped off, deal with rude people, cellphones, brats, see a polished turd, repeat."
People are getting more into home theater setups, even humble ones, vs. facing the above cycle and the 19 weekends in a row of steady decline at the box office continue to tell the tale.
When you combine a lackluster product with increasing prices at the theater, it shouldn't be a mystery to anyone why theaters are really starting to feel some serious heat and the box office numbers continue their steady decline.
Frankly, it's about time!
Your confusion stems from your misinterpretation and deliberate spin job, as consequence. Hopefully I'm clearing that up for you right now.MarkB wrote:
I don't understand people who seem to be rooting for this to fail creatively as well as financially. That seems rather hypocritical, especially when one complains in the same breath about the "crap" Hollywood is always producing.
Mark
WOTW 2005 can be added to that list of crap.
I, for one, never "root" for a film to do badly, but I wasn't impressed with this polished turd and apparently a lot of other people aren't, either.
You'll be seeing more in the coming weeks when the fallout from this takes place and people realize just what a joke this thing is, especially considering the names attached to it.
I was just reading in the paper again yet again today the continued concerns about overall box office decline and how this film already is not delivering the kind of pay dirt they were hoping for.
As you say, this movie will probably be "the biggest one of the summer" but let me tell you: That's not saying much these days and the numbers are going to reflect that. And if this is the best we're going to see this summer, then it truly is one of the worst summers for films I've seen in quite some time. (Although I have to give some credit to the escapist fun that was Mr. and Mrs. Smith. )
In fact, they said "Were it not for the FLUKE hit that Mel Gibson's "Passionof Christ" film, bringing out lots of people that usually don't go to the theaters, this problem really goes back a lot further."
The theaters are suffering because of the overall dreck Hollywood continues to crank out, and polished turds like WOTW just continue to propogate that cycle.
To make up the loss, the theaters had to start airing commercials like we see on TV and raise prices to outright "gouge" status. God forbid you want to eat or drink something as well.
In a way, the theaters are victims as well. It's a vicious cycle that starts and ends in Hollywood.
Vote with your wallets, people!
I, for one, am encouraged that people are becoming less forgiving and more discerning, especially when they go to the theater and sit through a bunch of commercials, garbage, and get ripped off. It's about time!
It's well documented that Spielberg and Cruise had a narrow schedule from which to join forces and rush this thing together. And that's exactly what they did. This movie screams "rush job" in as large and extravagant a manner as only a George Lucas or a Steven Spielberg would be allowed to get away with.
Aside from some very impressive visuals on occasions, the writing couldn't scream rush job more obviously, to me.
There are so many logic holes in this thing that it really had me laughing in the theater several times, out loud.
To say that the characters in this were "cardboard cutouts" would be an understatement. Cruise's "character" is just downright unplausible and he literally changes on a dime from "selfish bastard" to "awesome, caring father" at the snap of the fingers. It "only" takes the threat of outright world annihilation to make this happen, right?
Sad to say, but ID4, for all its flaws, was more fully developed and coherent than this thing was at times. At least ID4 had some real characters with some track of development that made a modicum of sense.
And, unlike this, ID4 never tried to take itself too seriously and it delivered on what it promised. WOTW does not and it should have.
I really wish they'd taken some more time, serious time, to do this thing RIGHT. Several more months, at least.
So, this is yet another film I can look back on now and wonder about "what could have been."
It certainly doesn't inspire much confidence in me to see what Spielberg does with Transformers next year, either. That's something that's very personal and dear to me, after 20 years since the last movie.
WOTW 2005 is a big, polished turd. End of story.