Monterey Jack wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2023 12:11 pm When did movie studios start thinking what we wanted from our childhood heroes was to see them old, broken, miserable failures? Half the reason why Top Gun: Maverick went through the roof at the box office was because Tom Cruise was still portrayed as...well, top gun. He had his late-middle-aged regrets, sure, but he wasn't portrayed as a complete and utter loser. And he got to exit that film on the top of the world, to cheers and self-satisfaction that he had put his handful of demons to rest, instead of Han Solo (literally stabbed through the heart by his traitorous son), Luke Skywalker (a bitter recluse living alone on an island), James Bond (allowing himself to get blown up by a million missiles because he couldn't be with the child he had only known existed for...what, two days?) and Indiana Jones (divorced, dead son, cut loose from his job with nothing but a crummy clock he gives away to a random guy on the street). I swear to God, if Ethan Hunt gets killed at the end of the eighth Mission: Impossible...

AndyDursin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2023 5:52 pm This is the kind of nauseating "Disney defender" take...the whole "its YOUR fault!!"...that you see corporate media shills wanting out there. Idiots like this can't ever acknowledge that no, stupid, it's the PRODUCT that's the problem.

Sony/Stage 6 Films/Blumhouse’s fifthquel Insidious: The Red Door nearly locked out Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny yesterday at the box office. The Patrick Wilson starring and directed PG-13 horror film scared up $5M in previews at 2,806 locations that began showtimes at 4PM. That amount of money is very close to what Indy grossed, early estimates showing around $5.2M for the day in an awful week that ended at $94.5M for the $300M-plus grossing Disney/Lucasfilm finale sequel. Insidious is being with women under 25, Indiana Jones with older men.