"Kiss The Girl" lyrics changed so Eric doesn't "force himself" on Ariel

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-The Little Mermaid (1989): 10/10

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Watched the 4K of the original (aka "real") Little Mermaid this morning, and mourned the Disney of the late-80s/early 90s "Renaissance Period" that used to push forward with bold, original ideas, instead of wanly rehashing their past triumphs using "inclusionary" casting gimmicks as a smokescreen to disguise how creatively and morally bankrupt they've become over the last decade. :cry: The animated film remains one of the crown jewels in their animated filmography, a joyous and delightful fairy tale brimming with shimmering, colorful animation (which you can actually SEE, instead of the desaturated murk of the new version), enthusiastic vocal performances and an Alan Menken/Howard Ashman score that contains some of the greatest songs in any Disney production. From the aching wistfulness of "Part Of Your World" to the infectious Caribbean groove of "Under The Sea" to the amorous bounce of "Kiss The Girl" (one of the sweetest, most romantic scenes in the Disney canon, and it's baffling why it's now considering "Rapey" by today's hysterical social media outrage standards), it's all effortlessly entertaining for young and old. The fact that the horrible-looking new version will likely gross over a billion worldwide this summer out of misplaced "nostalgia" when fans who grew up on the original can just, I dunno WATCH THE ORIGINAL AGAIN is actively depressing. And it's even sadder to know that a new generation of kids are getting force-fed the moldy leftovers from what their parents grew up on, instead of being allowed to have their own original films they can hold dear to their hearts and grow up with as formative classics. but why have that, when we can have a joyless, ugly retread that exists to punch diversity buttons and appease a tiny subset of Twitter users who are appeased that the new version "fixes all of the problems" of the previous version instead of the millions of families worldwide who used to hold Disney to the highest standards of quality imaginable? Just stay home, watch the original on D+ (or, preferably, on the sparkling 4K disc), and consign this new version to the trash heap of the dreariest, most brand-damaging era in Disney's history since the days of those direct-to-video "Cheapquels".

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These animal characters are TERRIFYING. :shock:


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Posted that review of the original Little Mermaid at Blu-Ray.com, and got plenty of charming responses from the usual Disney simps...
Brian81;21110485 wrote:Damn, that's a lot of words to gripe about diversity/inclusion stuff in Disney's newer films.
mdhaus;21116086 wrote:That's a lot of words to say, "I'm gonna act like a bigot."

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The usual folks are out apparently over there, eh? That's the sign your movie is a loss -- when people start calling you a bigot/racist/sexist if you don't like it.

There's going to be a lot of that all over the media once this comes out and people see it. I give it up for any critic who has the stones to call it like it is and not sugarcoat it.

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AndyDursin wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 10:15 amI give it up for any critic who has the stones to call it like it is and not sugarcoat it.
RT tried to deactivate the putrid audience score for Peter Pan & Wendy, but got shamed into putting it back up (currently at TWELVE percent :lol: ). And you can really tell when a critic is dancing around what they really want to say about the latest Disney pile o' crap, but have to self-censor, because they know they're be branded an "ist" or a "phobe" for telling it like it is.

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Yes, the old "the performances are great!" line. :lol: You'll be seeing a lot of that.

To respond to your earlier post MJ, these baffling pseudo-realistic live-action Disney remakes are the most egregious of them all. It's as if they want to make THE LION KING or THE LITTLE MERMAID "more realistic" yet somehow keep them in the same "cartoony" world they come from -- witnessed by these horrid 3D recreations of Ariel's under the sea friends or some of the "real" animals from THE LION KING.

They would be more successful if they let someone refashion the material with a specific, different "artistic lens" so to speak -- make the material more human and anchored in reality, and either abandon the "fantasy elements" completely or figure out a whole different way of conveying that world. The only time they've really been able to do it is when they let Julie Tamor make THE LION KING for Broadway, but it's hard to imagine they would take that kind of a risk today, regardless of how successful that show was (and still is).

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AndyDursin wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 11:56 am To respond to your earlier post MJ, these baffling pseudo-realistic live-action Disney remakes are the most egregious of them all. It's as if they want to make THE LION KING or THE LITTLE MERMAID "more realistic" yet somehow keep them in the same "cartoony" world they come from -- witnessed by these horrid 3D recreations of Ariel's under the sea friends or some of the "real" animals from THE LION KING.
The proof of just how transitory these live-action remakes are (despite raking in billions) are the fact that you NEVER see the "live-action" versions of these characters adorning Disney merch beyond the initial releases of the films. It's been four years since the 2019 versions of Aladdin and The Lion King (total gross for both: about $2.6 billion worldwide), yet if you see a seven-year-old wearing a T-shirt with these characters, it'll be the friendly, hand-drawn versions from the 90s, not these creepy, soulless digital automatons. I see parents buying diapers for their kids all the time at work, and the ones with Disney characters adorning them are ALWAYS the hand-drawn versions. Kids will always gravitate towards characters with kind, emotive, recognizably human expressions, as opposed to...well, LOOK at this ghastly thing!

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:lol: :lol: Gordon Willis omg what a shill

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AndyDursin wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 9:34 pm :lol: :lol: Gordon Willis omg what a shill
"But-but-but...you're racist!" :P

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Always a great sign when you're giving away large chunks of your movie for free on YouTube weeks before it opens... :P



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Four days until release, and not one review from "real critics" on RT. Now this is how you sell a stinker, unlike whatever the hell Disney's doing with Dial Of Destiny... :lol:

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Indeed, the first reviews are just out today, and it obviously sucks. You will have enough kool aid drinkers proclaiming how they "want to prove the racist haters wrong!" by praising the lead's performance, but cut through that and nearly every review I've seen mentions the movie's uneasiness and failure to bridge the gap between animation and live-action -- and merely being a pale remake of the cartoon.

Plus -- 135 MINUTES. For THE LITTLE MERMAID? Lol. No thanks!

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AndyDursin wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 12:22 pm
Plus -- 135 MINUTES. For THE LITTLE MERMAID? Lol. No thanks!
Even if you subtract the obligatory 12-minute end credits crawl, that's still FORTY MINUTES LONGER than the original, which was perfectly-paced as it was. :shock: All so they can add "important" things like a rap number between Sebastian and a gender/species-swapped Scuttle. :? I'm sure this will settle into the usual "high" RT score in the lower 80s, but if you actually READ the reviews, it'll be obvious how much the critics are biting their tongues trying to avoid what they really want to say out of fear of being branded "racist". :roll:

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AndyDursin wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 6:57 pm Shame on anyone who pays to see this garbage!


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