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Paramount Home Entertainment have announced the US Blu-ray Disc release of Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull on 14th October 2008 priced at $39.99 SRP. Set in 1957, the latest Indy film stars Harrison Ford, Cate Blanchett, Karen Allen, Shia LaBeouf, Ray Winstone and John Hurt, following Indy on a perilous adventure to find the coveted Crystal Skull of Akator. From the ivy-covered halls of Marshall College to the verdant jungles of South America, Indy is relentlessly pursued by sinister Soviet agents who will stop at nothing to get their hands on the eerie object of fascination.

A 2-Disc Special Edition, region coding is TBC. All extras are in HD with the full list of features detailed below…

Disc 1: Main Feature
1080P Widescreen
THX Certified English 5.1 TrueHD, French and Spanish 5.1 Dolby Digita
English, French, Spanish and Portuguese subtitles
Indiana Jones Timelines— Explore the movie through interactive timelines that include video featurettes, in-depth information and unique imagery. Your adventure begins with one of these three timelines:
Story Timeline: Showcases the key events of the “Kingdom of the Crystal Skull” storyline.
Production Timeline: A Making-of chronology for “Kingdom of the Crystal Skull”.
Historical Timeline: Dives into the real-world historical influences that are referenced in the film.
The Return of a Legend - The evolution of the new film and a tribute to the legendary hero and his creators.
Pre-Production - Follows Steven Spielberg as he creates animatic sequences, Shia LaBeouf as he learns to swordfight and captures the reunion of filmmakers and cast on the soundstage.

Disc 2: Extra Features
Production Diary: Making Kingdom of the Crystal Skull - Join filmmakers, cast and crew for a complete look at the making of the film.
Shooting Begins: New Mexico
Back To School: New Haven, Connecticut
Welcome to the Jungle: Hilo, Hawaii
On-Set Action
Exploring Akator
Wrapping Up!
Warrior Makeup
The Crystal Skulls
Iconic Props
The Effects of Indy
Adventures in Post Production
Closing: Team Indy
Pre-Visualization Sequences:
Area 51 Escape
Jungle Chase
Ants Attack
Galleries:
The Art Department
The Adventure Begins
Cemetery and Jungle
Akator
Stan Winston Sudio
Corpses, Skeletons & Mummies
Aliens & Crystal Skulls
Production Photographs
Portraits
Behind-the-Scenes Photographs
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#107 Post by AndyDursin »

I can wait to sit through this one again... :(

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#108 Post by JSWalsh »

AndyDursin wrote:I can wait to sit through this one again... :(
I have no real desire to see this, but I got a surprising recommendation from an older guy who is a lifelong fan of the pulps. He said he enjoyed this a lot because it was like a sci-fu/pulp adventure novel. His is the only review that got me even mildly interested.
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JSWalsh wrote:[I have no real desire to see this, but I got a surprising recommendation from an older guy who is a lifelong fan of the pulps. He said he enjoyed this a lot because it was like a sci-fu/pulp adventure novel. His is the only review that got me even mildly interested.
I had back-and-forth arguments on how bad the movie looked with a close friend of mine after the trailers came out...and for weeks he was telling me the movie would turn OK, that there was nothing to worry about, that my suspicions would be invalid after the film came out.

When he saw it, all he said in an email was "okay, that sucked."

I'll probably watch it again all the way through on Blu-Ray, just to make sure I wasn't wrong. The first time around, the film was lethargic, uninspired, badly written, poorly shot, indifferently directed...and one of Spielberg's worst, right alongside THE LOST WORLD. As time goes on I'm sure the rep of the movie will be pretty low for everyone involved.

Let's put it this way -- it's probably fun if you just happen to like that kind of film to begin with. But I could say the same thing about the Cannon KING SOLOMON'S MINES and the new MUMMY - TOMB OF THE DRAGON EMPEROR as well, if you get my drift. ;)

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#110 Post by JSWalsh »

Well, your comments here are very convincing. While admitting Spielberg is the best living director in terms of his ability to use the tools of cinema, I've just never been a huge fan of his movies. So you've convinced me, screw it!

I'm surprised by how impatient I am with movies these days. I used to watch everything popular just to have an opinion, but now I shut things off pretty early on if they don't capture my interest. Life's too short.
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After rewatching the Blu-Ray version from start to finish the other day -- hoping against better judgment that I was just tired or in a bad mood when I saw this in theaters -- I have come to the conclusion this movie is actually even worse than I thought the first time around.

Not one part of this movie works -- from the tepid opening sequence, to the forced "funny stuff" on campus (that motorcycle chase wasn't remotely humorous), to the "sci-fi" overtones...while the whole Marion/Mutt angle fails to be poignant or emotional. (And the script still stinks -- after two viewings I still don't understand the point of the "keepers of the caves" or whatever they were in Peru, or why Mutt even needs to bring his motorcycle to South America for a set piece that never happens!). This movie is a belated, failed effort to recapture "the glory days" of the principals involved and it's only "fun" if you were just happy they made it in the first place.

Objectively, as a movie, it's not even mediocre -- it's pretty bad. (I probably need to lob off a half-star on my review in fact).

As I thought, this is undoubtedly going to go down as one of Spielberg's worst films, and it's certainly one of John Williams' most forgettable scores -- the lowpoint of all his Lucas/Spielberg efforts for the most part.

Not even ATTACK OF THE CLONES, the weakest of the Star Wars prequels (and I'm a fan of the first and third), is as painful as sitting through this one a second time. :shock:
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AndyDursin wrote:
At this point not even ATTACK OF THE CLONES, the weakest of the Star Wars prequels (and I'm a fan of the first and third), is as painful as sitting through this one a second time. :shock:
Boy, that's really saying something and I'm not a fan of any of those films.

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#113 Post by AndyDursin »

Eric W. wrote:
AndyDursin wrote:
At this point not even ATTACK OF THE CLONES, the weakest of the Star Wars prequels (and I'm a fan of the first and third), is as painful as sitting through this one a second time. :shock:
Boy, that's really saying something and I'm not a fan of any of those films.
It sucks. Pure and simple.

Not an astute critical commentary, but that's what it boils down to. Nothing positive to take away from it, really.

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#114 Post by Eric W. »

AndyDursin wrote:
Eric W. wrote:
AndyDursin wrote:
At this point not even ATTACK OF THE CLONES, the weakest of the Star Wars prequels (and I'm a fan of the first and third), is as painful as sitting through this one a second time. :shock:
Boy, that's really saying something and I'm not a fan of any of those films.
It sucks. Pure and simple.

Not an astute critical commentary, but that's what it boils down to. Nothing positive to take away from it, really.
You certainly get no argument from me. I wish they'd never bothered.

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#115 Post by Jedbu »

Finally saw this on DVD-just couldn't get to it in theaters-and all I can say is. . .

oohhh. :(

Talk about a film without a sense of joy. . .even TEMPLE OF DOOM-which I am not a huge fan of-had some fun in it. This had such a miniscule amount that the scene where Ford hides in the fridge during a nuclear test was the best thing in it. I can't believe that Spielberg had to resort to an insert shot of a label saying "Lead lined" on the door of the thing-that is something that a novice filmmaker would have to do, not this guy. Absolutely no one looked like they were enjoying what they were doing, and when Jim Broadbent's character outshines the lead character (with only about 5 minutes of screen time!) something is seriously wrong.

Even Williams' score did nothing for me, which really saddens me. I do believe that Spielberg has finally made a film worse than ALWAYS, sad to say. :cry:
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#116 Post by AndyDursin »

I do believe that Spielberg has finally made a film worse than ALWAYS, sad to say. Crying or Very sad
You didn't think THE LOST WORLD was worse than ALWAYS? At least the latter had gorgeous Mikael Salomon cinematography (and I've always kind of liked it, even if it didn't quite live up to expectations. Brad Johnson?!?!).

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#117 Post by Jedbu »

At least LOST WORLD had Julianne Moore :twisted: and Jeff Goldblum ("Yeah, but then comes the yelling. . .and the screaming. . .") and the chase through the tall grass by the raptors.

ALWAYS had John Goodman and Audrey Hepburn. . .playing. . .Hap. Hap!? Dreyfuss and Hunter with zero chemistry and Brad Johnson, who, along with Ke Huy Kwan, has to be one of the rare times where Spielberg's casting sense pulled a rock. I even rented this film again just to try and watch it again after watching INDY-sorry, had to stop after 20 minutes-still sucks.
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#118 Post by AndyDursin »

Yeah I'd prefer watching ALWAYS to THE LOST WORLD in a second myself. I thought Dreyfuss and Hunter worked well together too (they even reteamed in the decent ONCE AROUND shortly thereafter). Johnson was bad, but he's in a role that doesn't require much either. For the type of romantic fantasy it was...I honestly didn't mind it.

But at least we agree on INDIANA JONES AND THE POINTLESS JOURNEY TO NOWHERESVILLE. ;)

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#119 Post by Jedbu »

Actually I think I would retitle it: INDIANA JONES AND FRUITLESS EFFORT TO GET BACK THE TIME I WASTED WATCHING IT. :cry:
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#120 Post by mkaroly »

I think THE LOST WORLD is Spielberg's worst- hand's down. ALWAYS is my guilty favorite. And I personally cannot even watch the first five minutes of ATTACK OF THE CLONES which fails in every department and is a complete and utter disaster....moreso than the other prequels (which I dislike....that opinion/bias is documented all over this message board). KOTCS is not as bad as that turkey for my money, despite its faults. It is the worst Indiana Jones movie of the bunch, but I was somewhat entertained by it and still am...much more so than Lucas' prequels. That's my opinion anyway, which isn't worth a whole lot in the end, but still fun to vocalize it. :)

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