mkaroly wrote: I would love to have the full SITH score - I thought he really nailed it on that one...and wasn't that the year that he did WAR OF THE WORLDS and MUNICH as well? I can't remember the third one he did that year.

That was a busy year for him -- Sith, Munich, War of the Worlds and Memoirs of a Geisha! A shame, because I'd have much rather heard a John Williams score for Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire than the latter three films.

Yeah - MOAG...forgot about that one. I too would have liked to see him score Goblet fo Fire - with all due respect to patrick Doyle, I don't remember a thing from that score. My interest in the POTTER films declined starting with that film.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-v ... k_20141130

Now THIS is what I call a trailer. I particularly loved the gratuitous blaster shot in the cockpit.

mkaroly wrote:Yeah - MOAG...forgot about that one. I too would have liked to see him score Goblet fo Fire - with all due respect to patrick Doyle, I don't remember a thing from that score. My interest in the POTTER films declined starting with that film.

Apparently the program for Williams' summer '05 concert at Tanglewood said he was scheduled to score Goblet of Fire. But I guess other things got in the way.

mkaroly wrote:Yeah - MOAG...forgot about that one. I too would have liked to see him score Goblet fo Fire - with all due respect to patrick Doyle, I don't remember a thing from that score. My interest in the POTTER films declined starting with that film.

I don't remember a thing about the non-Williams POTTER scores other than how bad they were! And I agree with you, Michael, my interested waned in the series with that installment too. The latter movies have an "expensive Syfy Channel movie" kind of blah, nondescript look to them with appropriately unmemorable music scores. They also became so convoluted, bloated (2.5 hours long) and slavishly faithful to the books that I don't believe anyone other than their fanbase really found them appealing. The last movie was at least better than the other installments, but all of them run together in my mind after the first 3 films.

Either way, I'm much more excited about a new STAR WARS movie even with Abrams at the helm. Again, I feel he'll be on his best behavior and the fact that he didn't have his hands all over this from the ground up can only be a good thing...but we'll see, STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS was so bad, that I'm not ruling anything out.

Unlike David, I also feel it is absolutely set in stone this film is coming out next Christmas. No way they are backing down at this point, they've got the date, the merchandizing, everything pointing to it. The Ford injury (assuming he's in the movie a great deal) would've been the perfect excuse to delay, but they didn't, and this trailer to me shows they are very far along with the process.

I agree with Andy that they very much want to release this movie by the end of next year. I still have my suspicions that they'll need to push it back, based on Kathleen Kennedy's discussion about doing so at the time the release date was announced. But it is quite possible that they'll release in December 2015 - and if past experience is any indication, that will mean they'll need to rush to make that date. Abrams was supposed to begin shooting months before he actually started, and the injury to Harrison Ford could not have helped the situation. But even with those issues, they could race through the Post process and just shave off 2-3 months of the time they needed. As I recall, the original Star Wars was supposed to be out in December 1976 and this math wound up pushing the release to May 1977...

I'm hopeful that in any case, Abrams will demonstrate the storytelling skills he last exercised ten years ago with the pilot of LOST. If he can tap into that creativity, this should be a fun adventure with a young cast, with a few bookend scenes with our familiar characters to get things started and ended. But if we get the approach Abrams inflicted on Mission Impossible, Star Trek and Super 8, Abrams will pretty much meet expectations - the movie will make lots of money, but it will sadly remain something that can best be viewed on the small screen.

I have to also admit that I'm singularly unimpressed with Rian Johnson, who they've already tapped to do the next two movies after Abrams. Looper was a truly terrible movie. Granted, he directed a couple of good episodes of "Breaking Bad", but I don't know that this automatically means he can successfully direct something on this scale - particularly after he failed so spectacularly with Looper.

The one bright spot in all of this is that no matter what, we still have some nice Blu-rays and DVDs that exist of the original trilogy. Even if Abrams and Johnson make a horrible mess out of everything, we can do what we've had to do with Star Trek after Abrams' inflictions: we can just enjoy the existing older movies and not worry about how Abrams mucked things up later...

Another reason a delay is highly unlikely is that they've already set all the other films, spin-off movies and whatever else is coming for the years following it. Sure, it can change, but the way things work now, it's unlikely to see something like this move off that date -- not when they have the "sidequels" or whatever these standalone Star Wars projects are ready to go.

More over, that footage looked pretty polished to me. Seems they have more than enough time to get the film ready for release a year from now -- they've finished shooting, the FX looked done in those few snippets...unless there's something wrong with it, I'd say the chances of it NOT being released next Christmas are slim to none at this rate.

At any rate, I do agree -- LOOPER sucked. I tried watching it a second time, disliked it more than I did the first time (I felt I was too lenient on it in retrospect!).

This is what I figured was going to happen. Feather in Abrams' cap here at least:

Iger noted how Abrams has relied more on physical sets and props that are significant in size and scope, rather than computer-generated imagery.

“That will give the film a look that will be extremely respectful of the look George (Lucas) created in the ’70s,” Iger said, “and will play well with ardent ‘Star Wars’ fans and play well with audiences today.”

Iger noted how the use of computer-generated graphics has made filmmaking seem “too easy.” “There’s a sameness to a lot of these films today,” Iger said. “The wow factor isn’t what it used to be. J.J. decided to create the physical wow factor.”

http://variety.com/2014/biz/news/star-w ... 201376154/

It's interesting that Lucas is publicly saying he hasn't seen the trailer and seems to be hinting he really has nothing to do with this movie and will see it in the theater with everyone else...

AndyDursin wrote:This is what I figured was going to happen. Feather in Abrams' cap here at least:

Iger noted how Abrams has relied more on physical sets and props that are significant in size and scope, rather than computer-generated imagery.

“That will give the film a look that will be extremely respectful of the look George (Lucas) created in the ’70s,” Iger said, “and will play well with ardent ‘Star Wars’ fans and play well with audiences today.”

Iger noted how the use of computer-generated graphics has made filmmaking seem “too easy.” “There’s a sameness to a lot of these films today,” Iger said. “The wow factor isn’t what it used to be. J.J. decided to create the physical wow factor.”

http://variety.com/2014/biz/news/star-w ... 201376154/

Please JJ - no lens flares!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mkaroly wrote: Please JJ - no lens flares!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh wow, what an original complaint!

Well, you complain every time someone mentions LEGEND on this board. My complaint may not be original but I am not the only one who is sick of seeing his lens flares. If you stop complaining about LEGEND every time it's mentioned, I will stop complaining about JJ Abrams' lens flares.

mkaroly wrote:Well, you complain every time someone mentions LEGEND on this board. My complaint may not be original but I am not the only one who is sick of seeing his lens flares. If you stop complaining about LEGEND every time it's mentioned, I will stop complaining about JJ Abrams' lens flares.

LOLOLOL point to Mr. Karoly! Thank you!

New trailer is out: