A perennial disappointment but I'll give it another go in a quality presentation. I'd imagine this is a UK exclusive since Warner still controls it in the US (I guess?)
LAST OF THE MOHICANS God willing is next!!
Arrow Confirms ROBIN HOOD Prince Of Thieves in 4K
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Re: Arrow Confirms ROBIN HOOD Prince Of Thieves in 4K
GBP to USD exchange rate as good as I can recall as well.
Here's the extras breakdown:
Brand new 4K restorations of both the theatrical and extended cuts from the original negative by Arrow Films
4K (2160p) UHD Blu-ray presentation of both cuts in Dolby Vision (HDR10 compatible)
Limited Edition packaging with reversible sleeve featuring original and newly commissioned artwork by Paul Shipper
60-page perfect-bound illustrated collector’s booklet featuring new writing on the film by Jackson Cooper and Mark Cunliffe
Double-sided fold-out poster featuring original and newly commissioned artwork by Paul Shipper
Double-sided fold-out poster featuring newly commissioned artwork by José Saccone
Six double-sided, postcard-sized artcards
Original uncompressed stereo and DTS-HD MA 5.1 surround audio
Optional English subtitles for the deaf and hard of hearing
Audio commentary with director Kevin Reynolds and actor Kevin Costner
Audio commentary with actors Morgan Freeman and Christian Slater and writers/producers Pen Densham and John Watson
Here We Are Kings: Making Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves – a brand new, multi-part documentary featuring brand new interviews with Densham, Watson, director of photography Douglas Milsome, editor Peter Boyle, costume designer John Bloomfield and many more members of the creative team
Robin Hood: The Myth, the Man, the Movie – an archival 1991 documentary hosted by Pierce Brosnan
One-on-One with the Cast – archival 1991 interviews with Costner, Freeman, Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio, Slater and Alan Rickman
Bryan Adams “(Everything I Do) I Do It for You” performance at Slane Castle, Ireland
Music soundtrack cues
Theatrical trailer
TV spots
Image gallery
Here's the extras breakdown:
Brand new 4K restorations of both the theatrical and extended cuts from the original negative by Arrow Films
4K (2160p) UHD Blu-ray presentation of both cuts in Dolby Vision (HDR10 compatible)
Limited Edition packaging with reversible sleeve featuring original and newly commissioned artwork by Paul Shipper
60-page perfect-bound illustrated collector’s booklet featuring new writing on the film by Jackson Cooper and Mark Cunliffe
Double-sided fold-out poster featuring original and newly commissioned artwork by Paul Shipper
Double-sided fold-out poster featuring newly commissioned artwork by José Saccone
Six double-sided, postcard-sized artcards
Original uncompressed stereo and DTS-HD MA 5.1 surround audio
Optional English subtitles for the deaf and hard of hearing
Audio commentary with director Kevin Reynolds and actor Kevin Costner
Audio commentary with actors Morgan Freeman and Christian Slater and writers/producers Pen Densham and John Watson
Here We Are Kings: Making Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves – a brand new, multi-part documentary featuring brand new interviews with Densham, Watson, director of photography Douglas Milsome, editor Peter Boyle, costume designer John Bloomfield and many more members of the creative team
Robin Hood: The Myth, the Man, the Movie – an archival 1991 documentary hosted by Pierce Brosnan
One-on-One with the Cast – archival 1991 interviews with Costner, Freeman, Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio, Slater and Alan Rickman
Bryan Adams “(Everything I Do) I Do It for You” performance at Slane Castle, Ireland
Music soundtrack cues
Theatrical trailer
TV spots
Image gallery
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Re: Arrow Confirms ROBIN HOOD Prince Of Thieves in 4K
Shame the movie itself is such a dreary turd, because that's one nice selection of extras.
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Re: Arrow Confirms ROBIN HOOD Prince Of Thieves in 4K
I just remember how the last 3 minutes with the Connery cameo tried to send the audience off on a high the previous 140 minutes failed to do. 
It's like the score. The first 5 minutes and the last 5 minutes are great and the rest of it is bleech like the movie itself.
It's like the score. The first 5 minutes and the last 5 minutes are great and the rest of it is bleech like the movie itself.
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Re: Arrow Confirms ROBIN HOOD Prince Of Thieves in 4K
Prince of Thieves was a movie people wanted to see so badly they convinced themselves it was great -- but I don't think anyone actually liked it.
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Re: Arrow Confirms ROBIN HOOD Prince Of Thieves in 4K
It was proof positive what "star power" actually meant in the days before "IP"s ruled Hollywood, and a currently "hot" actor could open anything with their name on it. People forget how HUGE of a draw Costner was in the late 80s and early 90s. Nowadays it's all about the characters, instead of the performers bringing them to life.Paul MacLean wrote: ↑Fri Aug 26, 2022 7:55 pm Prince of Thieves was a movie people wanted to see so badly they convinced themselves it was great -- but I don't think anyone actually liked it.
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Re: Arrow Confirms ROBIN HOOD Prince Of Thieves in 4K
Things were far different then on any number of levels.
But I'm not even sure people convinced themselves it was good... Everyone went to see it but as we've seen with a lot of hits during the Eddie Murphy era, that doesn't necessarily mean people loved it. Ive never met anyone who was like "oh yeah that was awesome!"
The big thing is that it was literally months after Dances With Wolves cleaned up. They couldn't have gotten a more "it" star of the moment if they tried, even if he was woefully miscast!
The promotion was everywhere too. Breakfast cereal. Video games. The Bryan Adams song. People may not have loved the movie but they did love the song (it was everywhere that year and for a long while afterwards). Not one of my favorites but it was one of the biggest hit singles of the decade.
They struck it rich at a time when people really went to the movies at a frequency they stopped doing even before covid. With no internet and just VHS to compete with, people used to just go out and go to the movies and because of Costner this movie had a ton of interest. But the hurried nature of the production, trying to get it out for summer and before the Fox McTiernan version had a chance (it ended up a perfectly good, albeit scaled back, Fox TV movie that was released to theaters in Europe), took its toll. Everything outside Alan Rickman was uninspired.
But I'm not even sure people convinced themselves it was good... Everyone went to see it but as we've seen with a lot of hits during the Eddie Murphy era, that doesn't necessarily mean people loved it. Ive never met anyone who was like "oh yeah that was awesome!"
The big thing is that it was literally months after Dances With Wolves cleaned up. They couldn't have gotten a more "it" star of the moment if they tried, even if he was woefully miscast!
The promotion was everywhere too. Breakfast cereal. Video games. The Bryan Adams song. People may not have loved the movie but they did love the song (it was everywhere that year and for a long while afterwards). Not one of my favorites but it was one of the biggest hit singles of the decade.
They struck it rich at a time when people really went to the movies at a frequency they stopped doing even before covid. With no internet and just VHS to compete with, people used to just go out and go to the movies and because of Costner this movie had a ton of interest. But the hurried nature of the production, trying to get it out for summer and before the Fox McTiernan version had a chance (it ended up a perfectly good, albeit scaled back, Fox TV movie that was released to theaters in Europe), took its toll. Everything outside Alan Rickman was uninspired.
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Re: Arrow Confirms ROBIN HOOD Prince Of Thieves in 4K
So, 2 cuts plus all the extras?
Seemless branching?
https://www.arrowfilms.com/4k/robin-hoo ... 53240.html
Seemless branching?
https://www.arrowfilms.com/4k/robin-hoo ... 53240.html
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Re: Arrow Confirms ROBIN HOOD Prince Of Thieves in 4K
Yes. Cheapest place to order to the US is Rarewaves.
Arrow puts all the extras on their UHDs.
Arrow puts all the extras on their UHDs.
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Re: Arrow Confirms ROBIN HOOD Prince Of Thieves in 4K
Copy came in yesterday.
It's funny, as good as this transfer is compared to past releases, the rushed production component of the film still shows -- maybe even more in 4K! Especially when it comes to the lighting. There are scenes in Sherwood Forest where it looks like somebody put a group of flood lights (the kind you'd use for a makeshift parking lot) in the backdrop. In some other outdoor scenes involving close-ups mostly, you can clearly tell there's artificial lighting being used to make the actors' faces visible despite they're happening in the daytime (albeit dreary and overcast). Meanwhile, a few other night time scenes still look like they're being illuminated by a single candle and aren't easy to make out!
The rushed element of the production and the bad weather undoubtedly had to do with all of that. And some of that comes up in the documentary -- plus Christian Slater's f-bomb explanation. There's a bit on the studio element there, and the original editors were fired once Kevin Reynolds left the movie (he's not interviewed and Densham/Watson still "don't know what happened" there
) and Stuart Baird came in to supervise the editing with a team of other cutters for Warner Bros. That explains Baird's prominent end credit positioning as a "consultant" but it would've been nice to hear more on this.
I don't know if the "extended version" is more in line with what they wanted originally or not, but I haven't actually sat through this movie since high school so I don't know myself!
It's funny, as good as this transfer is compared to past releases, the rushed production component of the film still shows -- maybe even more in 4K! Especially when it comes to the lighting. There are scenes in Sherwood Forest where it looks like somebody put a group of flood lights (the kind you'd use for a makeshift parking lot) in the backdrop. In some other outdoor scenes involving close-ups mostly, you can clearly tell there's artificial lighting being used to make the actors' faces visible despite they're happening in the daytime (albeit dreary and overcast). Meanwhile, a few other night time scenes still look like they're being illuminated by a single candle and aren't easy to make out!
The rushed element of the production and the bad weather undoubtedly had to do with all of that. And some of that comes up in the documentary -- plus Christian Slater's f-bomb explanation. There's a bit on the studio element there, and the original editors were fired once Kevin Reynolds left the movie (he's not interviewed and Densham/Watson still "don't know what happened" there
) and Stuart Baird came in to supervise the editing with a team of other cutters for Warner Bros. That explains Baird's prominent end credit positioning as a "consultant" but it would've been nice to hear more on this.I don't know if the "extended version" is more in line with what they wanted originally or not, but I haven't actually sat through this movie since high school so I don't know myself!