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Weekend Box Office 6/18 - FLASH Grounded, Pixar Disaster

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2023 7:42 pm
by AndyDursin
Hollywood takes it on the chin...again.

These numbers for "summer time" are abysmal. Cant say I didnt see it coming either...there must have been 10 people at The Flash last Thursday night.
Father’s Day and Juneteenth weekend is bringing plenty of bad news for multiple studios at the box office, starting with Warner Bros./DC’s “The Flash,” which is opening below expectations with an estimated $70 million 4-day opening weekend after grossing $24.5 million from 4,234 theaters on Friday.

Industry estimates have the 3-day opening for “Flash” at $61 million, which would be identical to what Paramount’s “Transformers: Rise of the Beasts” opened to last weekend. But both figures are below the $67 million 3-day/$71.5 million 4-day opening earned last fall by fellow DC film “Black Adam,” which ended up grossing only $393 million worldwide against a $200 million-plus production budget before marketing.

“The Flash,” which has been reported to be at the same budget level, was expected to do better given its mid-June release slot and other factors such as the return of Michael Keaton as Batman, which was seen as a potential selling point to Gen X and Millennial audiences. Instead, audience reception is actually lower than what “Black Adam” received on its opening weekend, earning a B on CinemaScore and an early Rotten Tomatoes audience score of 85%, compared to a B+ and 89% for Dwayne Johnson’s film.

The news is even worse for Disney and Pixar’s new film “Elemental,” which industry estimates have opening to a terrible $28.5 million after grossing just $11.5 million from 4,035 theaters on its opening day. Not only is that the worst opening weekend in Pixar history, “Elemental” may even lose the No. 2 spot on the charts to the third weekend of Sony’s “Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse,” which industry estimates have earning $28-29 million this weekend.
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/fla ... 39227.html

Re: Weekend Box Office 6/18 - FLASH Grounded, Pixar Disaster

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:04 pm
by Monterey Jack
Elemental got screwed by Disney conditioning people to expect Pixar movies at home for "free" on D+ for the last three years. :? Shame, as it was a charming movie.

Re: Weekend Box Office 6/18 - FLASH Grounded, Pixar Disaster

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:51 am
by AndyDursin
To me ELEMENTAL looks like yet another Pixar movie with a weird concept that's lacking in widespread appeal. As I said with TURNING RED that ain't FINDING NEMO and never would have been, COVID or not.

As for THE FLASH, so much for James Gunn's hype that it was "one of the greatest super hero movies ever made." That opening is so bad, WB should've just sent it to HBO Max 2 years ago. Granted, I liked it better than most Marvel movies I've seen lately (quite a bit too), but it wasn't great. I realize he only had a little bit to do with the post-production on FLASH but Gunn's sensibilities can often be off the mark and I'd say his SUPERMAN is anything but a sure thing, especially after the "animal cruelty" component of GUARDIANS 3.

Why they showed Cavill the door is odd -- why they set up THE FLASH obviously for Michael Keaton and Supergirl, only to axe both of them, is also odd...looks like they just wanted a clean slate for DC's future, save for The Flash and Aquaman. Kind of a strange way to go, giving Gunn all that control, but I guess we'll see how wise a move that turns out to be.

Re: Weekend Box Office 6/18 - FLASH Grounded, Pixar Disaster

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 7:49 pm
by AndyDursin
Numbers...
1 - The Flash $55,100,000 - 4,234 - $13,013 $55,100,000 1 Warner Bros.
2 - Elemental $29,500,000 - 4,035 - $7,311 $29,500,000 1 Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures
3 2 Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse $27,800,000 -49.9% 3,873 -459 $7,177 $280,382,979 3 Columbia Pictures
4 1 Transformers: Rise of the Beasts $20,000,000 -67.2% 3,680 +2 $5,434 $100,622,183 2 Paramount Pictures
5 3 The Little Mermaid $11,600,000 -49.9% 3,480 -840 $3,333 $253,559,129 4 Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures

Re: Weekend Box Office 6/18 - FLASH Grounded, Pixar Disaster

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:31 pm
by Monterey Jack
Spider-Verse almost topping Elemental in its THIRD weekend of release. :shock:

Re: Weekend Box Office 6/18 - FLASH Grounded, Pixar Disaster

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:10 pm
by AndyDursin
Could adults finally be tired of comic books and cartoons? It's about time. Of course, Hollywood has few other solutions... :?

Those openings are wretched, it's like we're back in COVID land again.

Re: Weekend Box Office 6/18 - FLASH Grounded, Pixar Disaster

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:28 pm
by Monterey Jack
AndyDursin wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:10 pm Those openings are wretched, it's like we're back in COVID land again.
And these days, it's not bullsh!t government virus paranoia keeping audiences away...it's sheer apathy for the reheated leftovers Hollywood's been serving up for the last decade or so finally reaching critical mass. Sometimes a good movie can still get people to come out (like Super Mario Bros., Guardians Of The Galaxy 3 and Across The Spider-Verse), but these bad, endlessly-tinkered-with franchise sequels you can smell the stink of from a mile away. The Flash was sold far more on generational nostalgia for Michael Keaton's Batman than for it's annoying star, and if that couldn't get the movie even past a $60 million opening, what chance does Dial Of Destiny have? And that movie is gonna be the same charmless, stitched-together mess that The Flash is (went with the brother today, and was in a swoon of seen-it! boredom throughout). People want something new, and wheezy, aging cinematic universes no longer have the pull they did only four years ago.

Re: Weekend Box Office 6/18 - FLASH Grounded, Pixar Disaster

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:46 pm
by AndyDursin
Didn't love The Flash but I liked it enough, at least a lot more than any recent Marvel thing of late. But yeah it's all growing stale, even for Marvel. Honestly I don't think people care enough about Ezra Miller to begin with (any casual viewer even know who he is?) to think that controversy had much to do with the weak opening. But being part of a stale formula? Absolutely. Put it together with BLACK ADAM and SHAZAM 2 and you can see it's a pattern (toss in the covid-afflicted WONDER WOMAN 1984 as well for that matter while we're at it) of losers for DCWB extending back to anything post-AQUAMAN. On the Marvel side anything with Spider-Man and that brand is still a moneymaker, but we are at the point where the Marvel name alone isn't going to save ANTMAN 3 or THE ETERNALS etc.

You'd think Disney will start paying attention to the trends but seeing as they've laid out their release plan of crap extending out to 2031 I'm not so sure. (Of course plans CAN change...especially after another stockholder meeting or two :mrgreen: