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Spielberg's 'Munich' on course for...

#1 Post by scorehead »

Spielberg's "Munich" looks like it's headed for disaster!!! Check out the blurb below, from today's IMDB.com I'm glad that I'm not part of the post production team that's being certainly being whipped and beat to get this thing out by December. Poor John Williams, this will no doubt test his abilities and resolve under pressure, surely a feat at his age. But who knows, this film venture could prove a better effort than WAR OF THE WORLDS.

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--------- from today's IMDB.com

Spielberg Rushing To Get 'Munich' Film Out on Time
Moviemaker Steven Spielberg is promising film fans and critics his new movie about the 1972 Olympics will hit cinemas on time next month, even though composer John Williams is struggling with the score. Spielberg is in a real race to complete the film, Munich, in time for the all-important Oscars consideration period this side of Christmas - even though the film seems far from finished, according to new movie awards website TheEnvelope.com. The controversial drama about the hunting down of Palestinian militants who killed 11 Israeli athletes at the Olympic Games only finished filming in late September and Williams has yet to record a single note for the soundtrack. But Spielberg insists his film will hit cinemas on time. The director's spokesman Marvin Levy says, "There aren't many movies like this, which start shooting around July 1 and plan to be in theatres on December 23. But it will get done. Munich's production is moving forward exactly as it should." According to the new Los Angeles Times website, which will monitor all the movie awards leading up to the Oscars, December 8 is the last possible day Munich can be considered for the early press awards. Golden Globe ballots are due on December 10. Many critics, who vote on the ballots, have been told they'll see the film in early December.

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#2 Post by AndyDursin »

Interesting stuff, scorehead.

Pressure certainly didn't hurt Goldsmith with his classic, literally last-minute score for STAR TREK THE MOTION PICTURE...one could say it even helped him focus in.

Not sure what to make of this, though. There are no real sources listed in that write up, other than Spielberg's PR guy responding to rumors. Any movie with that kind of production schedule will be grist for the rumor mill (in terms of "how can they finish it", etc.). Then again, Spielberg's recent movies haven't been as polished as his earlier works, and I can't imagine this is going to help any, either.

Still, I'd be a lot more concerned about a film like KING KONG, which has been in production for some time and seems like they're having problems with still (i.e. the music, the running time, and Kong's design still being changed at this late stage of the game).

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#3 Post by MarkB »

I don't see anything there that indicates the production is actually behind schedule. Since the production was designed with such a short schedule from the get-go, none of this is a surprise, or indicative of impending "disaster."

There's no indication that Williams has missed a recording date.

The article simply states the production has a tight schedule. I'm sure the producers are aware of that since they made the schedule in the first place. The rest is pure conjecture with NO evidence to back it up.

WAR OF THE WORLDS had a similarly compact schedule and still managed to get out on time. (I doubt the problems I had with that movie had anything to do with the tight production schedule.)

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MarkB wrote:I don't see anything there that indicates the production is actually behind schedule. Since the production was designed with such a short schedule from the get-go, none of this is a surprise, or indicative of impending "disaster."

There's no indication that Williams has missed a recording date.

The article simply states the production has a tight schedule. I'm sure the producers are aware of that since they made the schedule in the first place. The rest is pure conjecture with NO evidence to back it up.

WAR OF THE WORLDS had a similarly compact schedule and still managed to get out on time. (I doubt the problems I had with that movie had anything to do with the tight production schedule.)

Mark
I agree Mark on WOTW, and the more I read that IMDB "story," it looks like rumors and nothing else. Until we see a more substantive report, I'd dismiss it.

I mean, if the scheduling was THAT much of a problem that the film was in legitimate trouble, I'm sure Spielberg would delay it into 2006 to allow for more work. That's happened before with a bit of success (TITANIC for example).

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#5 Post by Carlson2005 »

I'm with Andy and Mark on this. Six months is nothing out of the ordinary for a film, especially one that has been planned for as long as this one. If Spielberg is using a similar directorial style to WOTW - very long takes - and has a clear idea of what he's after, post-production time is, if anything, perhaps slightly longer than he needs: remember, old-school directors used to crank out 3-4 movies a year up until the late 60s. Plus Spielberg has access to the best that money can buy. And it's not as if this is an fx heavy picture, either.

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#6 Post by MikeSkerritt »

This is not the first time Spielberg has cranked out a big-budget effects film in the summer and a smaller, quickly-shot drama in the winter:

2002: MINORTY REPORT and CATCH ME IF YOU CAN

1997: THE LOST WORLD and AMISTAD

1993: JURASSIC PARK and SCHINDLER'S LIST

1989: INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST CRUSADE and ALWAYS

Spielberg's a fast shooter. He always has been (maybe he learned a thing or two from JAWS!). Plus, don't forget that this film was prepped to be shot last year and was shelved for some reason. You'd have to think that would help minimize pre-production and logistical problems once everything went into high gear. And Williams, from what I understand, had plenty of time to write the score. (Incidentally I think "struggling" is used out of context. Scoring a film is never easy.)

I don't know why so many in the press want to jump on this production.

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#7 Post by AndyDursin »

Mike,
Those are excellent points all. I really was struck by the term of Williams "struggling" -- what exactly does that mean? With no quotes or anything to back it up, I'm chalking that up as pure rumor, like a lot of junk news we get on the IMDB and elsewhere (particularly the "overseas news" outlets).

I'm very psyched for MEMOIRS OF A GEISHA and this score, though...Williams doing pure dramatic scoring is long overdue!

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AndyDursin wrote:I'm very psyched for MEMOIRS OF A GEISHA and this score, though...Williams doing pure dramatic scoring is long overdue!
I'm finding it VERY hard to lay off hearing this score before the full album is released. But I really want to get that first pure experience. I hope it's as good as I want it to be!!

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MikeSkerritt wrote:
AndyDursin wrote:I'm very psyched for MEMOIRS OF A GEISHA and this score, though...Williams doing pure dramatic scoring is long overdue!
I'm finding it VERY hard to lay off hearing this score before the full album is released. But I really want to get that first pure experience. I hope it's as good as I want it to be!!
Agreed. I hope I get a review copy in from Sony in the next few days. I'll post any thoughts asap.

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#10 Post by mkaroly »

AndyDursin wrote:
MikeSkerritt wrote:
AndyDursin wrote:I'm very psyched for MEMOIRS OF A GEISHA and this score, though...Williams doing pure dramatic scoring is long overdue!
I'm finding it VERY hard to lay off hearing this score before the full album is released. But I really want to get that first pure experience. I hope it's as good as I want it to be!!
Agreed. I hope I get a review copy in from Sony in the next few days. I'll post any thoughts asap.
I am highly anticipating this score as Yo Yo Ma plays cello on it (as everyone knows already)- I liked Williams' TIBET score and think his string writing (especially for solo string instruments) in recent efforts has been fantastic (not that it wasn't before, mind you). And let's face it- after the WOTW score, this one has to be better, right???? :)

My only concern with Spielberg cranking things out is that he tends to get sloppy. JURASSIC PARK has several "errors" in it (though it's still fun), and THE LOST WORLD is, IMHO, his worst film ever- he just phoned that one in. WOTW (in a thread on this website) has its share of bloopers and sloppiness- let's hope MUNICH is more fluid visually and technically.

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