And for all the 'horrific" adjectives thrown at the "Space Leia" scene..
Was she wearing, like, a space suit or something? Apparently now they're Kryptonians who don't need it as she's able to fly into outerspace and avoid freezing to death. Remember this is the 8th (or 9th, whatever) movie in a series that's been around since 1977, with no prior sequence (I can recall) that would ever once point to that kind of melodramatic moment. I found that sequence hysterically overwrought, totally out of place in this "universe" as it were. Williams' equally melodramatic (and unintentionally funny) use of the Princess Leia theme made it even worse. I'd rather watch Jar Jar Binks pilot a spaceship than see that sequence again.
if a Jedi can make objects move with their mind, why can't one in zero-G use the force to "latch" onto a massive, stationary object (like a spacecraft) and pull themselves towards it? Plus, wasn't Leia still within the ship's force field?
The power of suggestion -- the Jedi mind-trick, as seen in the original trilogy -- is one thing, but the Disney movies have "retconned" the Force into some ridiculous Marvel super-power. To the point where why does anyone carry a gun or a lightsaber? Why do you need it? If Vader can now throw dozens of rebel soldiers around at will at the end of ROGUE ONE, why does he need an entourage of stormtroopers to help him board the ship? That sequence "looked cool" and surely appealed to the Marvel fanboys, but it was logistically out of sync with the film it was leading into.
There's a thing called suspension of disbelief, yes, but the consistency of "the rules" of this series is gone, in place of scenes where Princess Leia can avoid death by magically willing herself in the depths of outerspace back to life. I fully thought that was the end of her character and couldn't believe they put such a stupid, garbage moment in one of these movies, especially when fans used to go crazy over each and every element in the prequels that they found silly.
Anyway, maybe they can hook up these characters with The Avengers now in a Disney multi-verse crossover film -- wouldn't THAT be cool? Imagine it: Rey AND Captain America AND Wolverine AND Spider-Man AND Kermit AND Fozzie Bear sharing screentime together! AWESOME!!!!!
I have a bad habit of "liking" movies too much, so as long as something doesn't piss me off in an egregious manner, I can let a lot slide.
I've noticed that -- or when you find a movie absolutely worthless that might have redeeming elements in it. Like FIRST BLOOD which I think is a classic for what it is. Even if you disagree, there are a lot of people who think that film is an action classic 35 years after its release -- I don't think many are going to consider THE LAST JEDI to be anything other than one more bloated, forgettable Disney product 35 years from now. Time will tell.
Also, I know you think it's "risky" but for most fans, they have an absolute right to be pissed off that Disney brought back "the characters you love" just to kill them off in such a worthless manner. Han in the first movie, Luke in this movie, Leia in the next one. I'm sure Leia was going to meet the Grim Reaper in this movie also until Carrie Fisher actually did die. Is that really "risky" storytelling that "takes chances" though -- or is it lazy and dumb storytelling because they couldn't come up with anything interesting for the characters to do?
These Disney films, this one in particular, also have a strange way of literalizing violence also that the original films didn't do. We knew Lando was a scoundrel, but outside of having Han captured, we didn't see how his actions benefited the Empire -- it was enough that it was suggested. Here, Del Toro's (awful) safecracker unloads info to the bad guys, who proceed to literally murder (on-screen) and blow up rebel support ships. Laura Dern's sacrifice also felt like something out of another movie galaxy as well...not to mention ROGUE ONE had to actually show the deaths of characters whose demise was, again, just talked about in a line of dialogue in the 1977 movie.
So weird a "family friendly" series has actually become more violent under Disney's hand. You could show STAR WARS to a young child, but I'm not going to show Theo this movie until he's much older. If at all, because I have no interest in sitting through it again.
It's a very good movie with flashes of greatness, and yet the baby is getting thrown out with the bathwater, as it always does when a good sequel fails to live up to what fans "expect" it to be after years of fevered speculation.
Trust me -- I have enough going on than to worry about where the story of THE FORCE AWAKENS was going. I just expected a good movie. This movie isn't good. Did you LIKE the casino sequence? If you actually were entertained by that set-piece, I would immediately revoke your film-critic license (lol). But you I also know you liked LOOPER, which I found totally overrated.
My big problem too is I never once was emotionally engaged by the film. I didnt care where it was going. I didn't care about the new characters. I don't feel any emotional investment in the plot. Even FORCE AWAKENS made me feel SOMETHING as it was going along, but I felt nothing while this movie was going on -- that I attribute to Johnson. In a bad way.
I mean, you loved it, and that's perfectly fine. I'm not going to say you're "wrong," it's how you feel and it's your opinion. On the other hand, I don't think you can make a blanket statement as to why people don't care for it. It's not that it's not what some of us expected -- it's that, for seemingly a lot of people, it's not a good movie. That's an aesthetic disagreement that's hard to debate. People value the film differently than you do. No worries, that's just how it is.
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