Can't say I'm too surprised. After how great the second movie turned out, it's just hard to keep that level of excellence going, and IMO Thomas Haden Church and Topher Grace are not the first people that pop into mind to play bad guys. The riff-raff over the music worked on the second movie but sounds as if it might've been indicative of a larger issue here.
ANYWAY, obviously I'm STILL GOING TO SEE IT, as everyone will, but it might be wise to dial down expectations after how well the first and second films turned out.
On the other hand one guy compares it to X-MEN 3 which was a lot of fun -- no classic, but good fun -- and I'd be satisfied with that alone
I've been watching the scenes from Spiderman 2 on youtube, with the rejected Elfman music. That's some pretty great stuff they threw out! I wonder if the music will be as big a mess in the new one.
I was only planning on seeig this just for Young`s sake, but after the trailer I skip this. I barely finsihed the first one and turned the second halfway off. The trailer for part 3 not only shows you the whole movie chronologically, but also looks like a major yawner. I never got the fascination with Spidey... these movies have every single clichee in them I could come up with. Add again lame effects and there you go...
a friend of mine saw it in a press showing and he is a big Spidey-Fan, but he said it was dissappointing. Too many endless FX scenes, which didn`t need to be in the movie anyway. Also too long and too many stories.
He liked the sandman effects though.
Didnt notice the music... which seems like in the other movies, Elfman`s scores were not memorable at all...
I won't set the bar high....perhaps they went more in an FX direction in thsi film because so much of the last film was story and character development. I can't see myself really disliking it unless it is horrendously bad (which I'm not seeing from reviewers).
I don't like the multiple villain approach though- it absolutely ruined the BATMAN movies.
It's not supposed to be a turkey by any means -- just seems a few people were disappointed. Hey after SUPERMAN RETURNS pretty much anything will be better, regardless of how flawed it is
I was not a fan of Elfman's music for the first movie and I found his approach overly dark, "gothic" and bombastic in nature for Spider-Man. They might have tracked music in from other places but I liked Young's subtler approach better at least. The YouTube clips are interesting but still remind me of what I disliked about Elfman's music to begin with.
Hollywood Reporter checks in with an all-out rave!
Spider-Man 3
Bottom Line: A dazzling kick-off to the summer '07 movie season.
By Michael Rechtshaffen
Apr 23, 2007
Left dangling for the past three years, arachnophiles everywhere finally have cause to celebrate.
The biggest (with a production budget due north of $250 million) and longest (clocking in at 139 minutes) and quite possibly the capper of a trilogy featuring the current talent lineup, "Spider-Man 3" has done it again.
Certain to please the geek squad by remaining ever true to its comic book roots while retaining that satisfying emotional core that has registered with equal numbers of female fans, "Spider-Man 3" has all its demographic bases covered.
And while the picture as a contained whole might fall an itsy-bitsy short of the personal best set by Sam Raimi's 2004 edition, the wow factor works overtime with state-of-the-art effects sequences that often are as beautiful as they are astonishing.
Having already received its world premiere last week in Tokyo in a nod to piracy concerns, "Spider-Man 3" is slated to arrive in a good portion of the globe ahead of its May 4 North American bow. "Spidey's" already impressive tracking numbers should be off the hook by the time it hits theaters here.
Factor in those additional Imax screens, and the Columbia Pictures blockbuster should spin a worldwide web that should build substantially on the $1.6 billion already brought in by the first two installments.
Fittingly for a Marvel comic book character who seems to be even more tormented by issues of duality than his superpowered colleagues, "Spider-Man 3" introduces not one but two formidable foes determined to take the web-slinger down.
First there's Flint Marko (Thomas Haden Church), an escaped con who becomes better known as Sandman after his DNA bonds with sand particles when he inadvertently gets caught in the middle of a molecular fusion experiment.
Then there's Eddie Brock (Topher Grace), Peter Parker's photo-snapping rival at the Daily Bugle who is transformed into the extremely nasty Venom after being enveloped in that black goop from another galaxy that temporarily brings out Parker's own darker impulses.
That's in addition to the love-hate relationship Pete already has with Harry Osborn (James Franco), who is very much in the latter mode at the beginning of the picture, determined to make Parker pay for his father's (aka Green Goblin) death.
But Parker also is preoccupied with his relationship with longtime girlfriend Mary Jane Watson (Kirsten Dunst). Things have hit a bit of a rocky patch as Mary Jane's acting career suffers a serious setback at the same time when Spider-Man's public adoration is at an all-time high.
Further complicating his marriage-proposal plans is the appearance of Gwen Stacy (Bryce Dallas Howard), the daughter of a police captain (James Cromwell) and a classmate of Parker's (not to mention the object of Eddie Brock's desires) whose public crush on Spider-Man has been duly noted by Mary Jane.
Tis a very tangled web of relationships, indeed, and things only become more enmeshed when Marko is found to be implicated in the death of Parker's Uncle Ben (Cliff Robertson).
Keeping them all neatly interconnected is the ambitious script by Raimi and his brother Ivan Raimi along with Alvin Sargent, who also helped elevate "Spider-Man 2."
While there are times the film's underlying theme of the power of forgiveness isn't always quite as subtle as it could be, it nevertheless serves as an effective anchor for the performers.
That aforementioned sinister substance that turns Spidey's suit a sleek, inky black also affords Tobey Maguire the opportunity to have a little fun getting in touch with his dark side, even when the bad boy makeover -- with his slicked-forward bangs and finger-popping attitude -- reminds one of a "Reefer Madness" fiend or, say, Robert Downey Jr. in "Less Than Zero."
At times, it also feels as if Raimi -- his Spidey senses tingling that this could well be his last stint as web master -- is determined to make sure he gets everything in. The result, aside from a running time that comes in 12 minutes longer than the previous edition, isn't always as cleanly executed as it might have been, especially toward the ending.
But there's plenty to enjoy here, from all the usual suspects, plus nicely conflicted performances by Church and Grace (ironic names for portrayers of bad guys, huh?).
Not to be outdone are those visual effects, which have again grown in leaps and bounds.
Entrusted with the new technologies, visual effects supervisor Scott Stokdyk and Sony Pictures Imageworks deliver big time here. On more than one occasion, those breathtaking sequences -- from Flint Marko's molecular deconstruction/Sandman's subsequent reconstruction to that final face-off among Spider-Man, Sandman, Venom and Osborn -- are deservedly met with bursts of spontaneous audience applause, which is no mean feat when balancing tubs of popcorn and supersize beverages.
Rounding out those money-well-spent production values is Bill Pope's vibrant cinematography, Bob Murawski's propulsive editing and James Acheson's dynamic costume design.
All three worked on "Spider-Man 2," as did production designer Neil Spisak, who this time also is joined by J. Michael Riva ("The Pursuit of Happyness"), and "Spider-Man 2" composer Christopher Young, who seamlessly incorporates Danny Elfman's original themes.
SPIDER-MAN 3
Columbia Pictures
Columbia Pictures presents a Marvel Studios/Laura Ziskin production
Credits:
Director: Sam Raimi
Screenwriters: Sam Raimi & Ivan Raimi and Alvin Sargent
Screen story: Sam Raimi & Ivan Raimi
Based on the Marvel Comic book by: Stan Lee and Steve Ditko
Producers: Laura Ziskin, Avi Arad, Grant Curtis
Executive producers: Stan Lee
Kevin Feige, Joseph M. Caracciolo
Director of photography: Bill Pope
Production designers: Neil Spisak, J. Michael Riva
Editor: Bob Murawski
Visual effects supervisor: Scott Stokdyk
Costume designer: James Acheson
Music: Danny Elfman, Christopher Young
Cast:
Peter Parker/Spider-Man: Tobey Maguire
Mary Jane Watson: Kirsten Dunst
Harry Osborn: James Franco
Flint Marko/Sandman: Thomas Haden Church
Eddie Brock/Venom: Topher Grace
Gwen Stacy: Bryce Dallas Howard
Capt. Stacy: James Cromwell
Aunt May: Rosemary Harris
J. Jonah Jameson: J.K. Simmons
Running time -- 139 minutes
MPAA rating: PG-13
