I do not get this either. I supposed the idea was, "Oh, if we embargo reviews until the day before it comes out, fans will smell a stinker a mile away!", but how is premiering the movie a month-and-a-half early to such wildly mediocre-to-bad reviews better, especially with the toxic rumors swirling around the movie (after getting delayed for a full year)? I mean, it's not like they can turn the Dial of Destiny and go back and re-shoot the whole movie from scratch (only GOOD, this time ), so why kneecap the movie long before it opens by letting bad reviews percolate? Anyone who was on-the-fence about it to begin with is now definitely gonna skip it, with the exception of people who see EVERY bad movie just as fuel for a 45-minute YouTube rant.AndyDursin wrote: ↑Fri May 19, 2023 1:59 pm Why the Cannes premiere? Why let all the bad reviews seep out when the movie doesn't open for another 6 weeks? And if Indy DOES die, why do they want that to leak ahead of the film?
The traditional business approach to a piece of cinematic trash is to HIDE IT. Don't let the critics at it. Build up the hype so at least you get the fans out on opening weekend and generate that revenue -- before it dies and word of mouth gets to it.
INDIANA JONES & THE DIAL OF DESTINY To Rival "John Carter" As Disney's Biggest Bomb
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You thought Crystal Skull was the worst indignity Dr. Jones would be subjected to, eh...?
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When you see sites like IGN give this movie a 4/10 (yes a 4/10 -- I'm not sure I've seen many things ever get scored that low there), and they're Disney-friendly, you know the bottom has fallen out for this film.
The sad part is...it makes John Williams and especially Harrison Ford look bad they couldn't refuse this movie. And makes Spielberg on the other end look wise for saying NO. His and Lucas' "Executive Producer" credit are contractual only, they must have paid them $$ just to have their names on it.
The sad part is...it makes John Williams and especially Harrison Ford look bad they couldn't refuse this movie. And makes Spielberg on the other end look wise for saying NO. His and Lucas' "Executive Producer" credit are contractual only, they must have paid them $$ just to have their names on it.
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At least with Crystal Skull (disappointing as the ultimate movie turned out to be), you could sense that Ford, Spielberg & Lucas all wanted to do it, that the three men were happy to return to a character they loved and to an earlier, simpler time in their respective careers. Spielberg has stated that he considered the movie a "reward cookie" of sorts for audiences who had come with him on a string of dark movies in the early-to-mid 00s and who had been clamoring for "Just one more" for years and years. Yet with Dial Of Destiny, you can sense no love, no passion, just a studio that Hoovered up Lucas' empire and is determined to squeeze every last penny out of his properties, no matter how ill-advised or how much it flies in the face of the original movies' intents. And look where we are, only eight years after Disney's first Star Wars movie...a once-mighty CINEMATIC franchise reduced to blah streaming content, a Willow series that's getting erased from existence less than a year after release, and a movie forcing an eighty-year-old man to try and emulate the rigorous physical heroics he originally engaged in 42 years ago (and badly injuring himself in the process). DOD will coast on audience goodwill for about half-an-hour (basically until the digital de-aging money runs out and they're forced to look at Ford's craggy, ancient mug for the rest of the movie), and then the movie will crash on a shoreline of bad word-of-mouth that'll make the post-Crystal Skull hangover seem downright sedate in comparison.
Actor George Hall (who played "Old Indy" on The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles) was about seventy-five when he filmed that series. Ford has five years on him right now.
Actor George Hall (who played "Old Indy" on The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles) was about seventy-five when he filmed that series. Ford has five years on him right now.
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Horrors...!
How about a warning that the movie is gonna be a desecration of a beloved cinematic icon?
How about a warning that the movie is gonna be a desecration of a beloved cinematic icon?
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DING DING DING
Great minds think alike...
Great minds think alike...
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"Kennedy's dug in there like an Alabama tick...!"
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This has got to be a joke, that opening projection is horrific.
https://deadline.com/2023/06/indiana-jo ... 235412010/
https://deadline.com/2023/06/indiana-jo ... 235412010/
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I somehow doubt this will be another Spider-Verse situation where the box office projections turned out much lower than what we actually got, mainly because that film - despite inexplicably embargoing reviews up until two days before it opened - was ecstatically raved over by both critics and audiences, and the post-Cannes stench left behind by Dial Of Destiny is gonna be a suffocating pall for the next several weeks to rival what's going on in New York right now.
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Watch....it will make $1 billion when all is said and done. Lol...AndyDursin wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:58 pm This has got to be a joke, that opening projection is horrific.
https://deadline.com/2023/06/indiana-jo ... 235412010/
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We are truly looking at one of the all time Hollywood bombs given the cost. It ought to be opening at 2x that amount at least.
You absolutely have to consider now that Iger premiered this at Cannes so as to engineer a proverbial noose around Kennedy's neck. This is her show and if it does become one of the biggest flops ever made, it ought to be the thing that pushes her out the door at last.
You absolutely have to consider now that Iger premiered this at Cannes so as to engineer a proverbial noose around Kennedy's neck. This is her show and if it does become one of the biggest flops ever made, it ought to be the thing that pushes her out the door at last.
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Williams' score will be available to download on June 28th.
The CD will follow...on August 9th.
The CD will follow...on August 9th.
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What's with the cover art...
A "friend of the board" commented that the "...guy running in the left corner in the suit jacket looks like Dick Butkus with Keith Hernandez hairdo..."
A "friend of the board" commented that the "...guy running in the left corner in the suit jacket looks like Dick Butkus with Keith Hernandez hairdo..."
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Indeed,
Ed
Ed
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Hey, we should count ourselves lucky it'll be on a pressed CD at all.Paul MacLean wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:56 am Williams' score will be available to download on June 28th.
The CD will follow...on August 9th.