We'll find out won't we? I'd say if that thing comes in at the low ball figures you have to start scratching your head a little bit.AndyDursin wrote:Interesting a lot of projections seem to be lowballing this in the $50-$65 million range. I'll be shocked if it doesn't do $75 million or much more...my only thinking is that perhaps TREK as a brand isn't what it once was, and that erosion thanks to the later shows and TNG films may be more detrimental than I imagined?
I guess I'll avoid this thread after I post this until I'm done seeing it tomorrow afternoon to avoid any spoilers. We're all obviously going to want to come into this thread and cut loose so it's a given the spoilers will be flying all over the place.
Either way I'm there tonight and I'll have reactions later. Hope everyone also chimes in once they've seen it.
It'll blow 'em out.
I still can't imagine this not making what FAST AND FURIOUS, WATCHMEN, WOLVERINE and all the rest of the spring junk basically did over 3 days.
I'll tell you what will offset the horrible damage of Nemesis: Time.
http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/w ... -trek-65m/
....Sure the tracking services are saying Star Trek will only make $50 million for the 3-day weekend. But even Paramount is convinced that JJ Abrams' reboot of the TV/movie franchise will get up to $60M. And based on my reporting Hollywood generally is thinking at least $65M, not even counting the $5 million that could be generated starting at 7 PM tonight when Star Trek officially starts screening in selected areas around North America. There's no doubt this is a difficult pic to gauge since it's been 7 years since the last Star Trek actioner Nemesis hit theaters, and nearly 30 years after the first in the movie franchise Star Trek: The Motion Picture, and a lifetime from the original TV series aired 1966-1969.
Good. The danger they could have fallen into easily, and no one has complained about this, would have been parody. Don't try to be Shatner as Kirk. YOU be Kirk and bring what you've got to the table, etc.AndyDursin wrote:My review is up on the front page (and will be at FSM on Monday).
What I loved the most about the movie is that it wasn't afraid of reprising the aspects of the original Enterprise crew that we all love: Bones IS Bones, Scotty IS Scotty, etc. The performances are fresh but they all, in one way or another, channel the aspects of Shatner, Nimoy, Kelley, and such that defined those roles.
Absolutely.
For me, that's what I really admired about Abrams' take here. This movie is a lot closer to the original series, to the original cast movies, than the Rick Berman era, and for me, it's exactly the approach that was needed.
Absolutely. Trek got mired down in that nonsense even as far as back latter TNG. You can almost tell during the run of TNG when Roddenberry got ill enough to no longer be involved and ultimately passed away. You can draw in the line in the ground practically.The interplay between and dynamic of the original cast -- the friendship of Kirk and Spock -- is what I've loved the most about any version of Star Trek (more so, for me, than any of the Next Generation or other Rick Berman-era productions). It's something that became missing from the later Berman shows -- too much tech talk, not enough HUMAN emotion, not enough characters you care about.
Excellent.
You can say Abrams wasn't being original in going back to TREK's roots, but frankly he's gotten it right -- really right -- in this movie. This is Kirk and Spock and the gang back together again -- in a manner that feels fresh and yet familiar at the same time.
Again, I appreciate this non spoiler ish impression here but this basically confirms for me that there's about only one way this all works and you just spelled it for me. Good!
And he was also smart. They make it abundantly clear in the movie that Nero's decisions created an ALTERNATE universe -- so this film is not re-writing decades of "canon" and history. It's creating its own. I honestly have no issue with that, because it enables Abrams and co. to a) do fresh adventures without having to worry about whatever elements of pre-existing material they may have been trampling upon otherwise and b) leaves the original shows, the original movies, alone to exist in their own universe.
I'm really looking forward to seeing it this afternoon.
It's a smart tactic -- just one of many things there is to like about this film.
I think there will be a minority of real hard-line Trekkers who will be upset at this or that. I can see that, I won't lie to you and tell you everything is the way it was -- but at the same time, in the grand scheme of things, I think it all worked. Let me put it this way -- the one woman who was dressed up as Janice Rand in front of us (and who was talking about the convention she attended in Vegas) loved it, and she looked like she could best anyone in a trivia contest.Again, I appreciate this non spoiler ish impression here but this basically confirms for me that there's about only one way this all works and you just spelled it for me. Good!
Exactly, though there's at least one moment where Pine is absolutely throwing a homage to Shatner. The other actors really do channel the personality elements of the original cast in a way that isn't a parody, but still manages to be quite familiar, if that makes any sense.Good. The danger they could have fallen into easily, and no one has complained about this, would have been parody. Don't try to be Shatner as Kirk. YOU be Kirk and bring what you've got to the table, etc.
I've been happy to see a REAL glowing optimism and enthusiasm from the mass bulk of Trek fans, including the cosplay hardcore types. They're hungry for something new and fresh.AndyDursin wrote:I think there will be a minority of real hard-line Trekkers who will be upset at this or that. I can see that, I won't lie to you and tell you everything is the way it was -- but at the same time, in the grand scheme of things, I think it all worked. Let me put it this way -- the one woman who was dressed up as Janice Rand in front of us (and who was talking about the convention she attended in Vegas) loved it, and she looked like she could best anyone in a trivia contest.Again, I appreciate this non spoiler ish impression here but this basically confirms for me that there's about only one way this all works and you just spelled it for me. Good!
Now you've intruiged me even more.
There was also one aspect of the movie that had a lot of people going "huh?" -- but I think it was done intentionally to illicit that response, because all of the characters look at one another in these moments with a similar expression. Guess that will be explored more in the next one!
C'mon clock!All of this is good but you know what? I think having Nimoy in this first one is enough. Let the new folks move forward clean.Exactly, though there's at least one moment where Pine is absolutely throwing a homage to Shatner. The other actors really do channel the personality elements of the original cast in a way that isn't a parody, but still manages to be quite familiar, if that makes any sense.
I'm glad to see Abrams saying there's a possibility of Shatner cameo-ing in the next movie. That'd really be the icing on the cake.
Well that's certainly true but the beauty of it is: In this new timeline...that dreck never happened!AndyDursin wrote:I dunno, I think if you see this movie you might feel Shatner deserves a better fate than getting shot in the back in GENERATIONS, you know? That one still leaves a bad taste in the mouth.
Indeed but here's the problem: Shatner is too old and too fat. I'm sorry, there's just no other way to say it. Even as far back as Star Trek VI they were helping him out with flattering camera shots and even a little CGI assistance because he was already pretty heavy even back then.If there's a way Abrams can make it work, I think he might try it.
Good.
And it's not a perfect movie, but it's a tight one. A lot of it works. A LOT.
GOOD! REAL GOOD!
The one thing again I'll stress is that I do think it's going to play even better with fans (understandably) of the old show, Kirk and Spock, etc., as opposed to the Berman era. For me, that's fine, because The Original Series is what appeals to me about Trek more than the TNG crew. But the use of comedy might irritate some Berman fans, who are used to what Star Trek became over the last 10-15 years.
Exactly.
To them I'll say -- stick with your DVDs, friends, because Abrams has tapped back into what established Trek in the first place.
No, haven't seen anything either . Probably the usual October-December window, if it's a usual occurrence.Eric W. wrote:Andy: Do you have any idea when this thing will show up on DVD and BD? I'm not getting a real clear answer to that anywhere...
